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Old 11-14-2010, 12:07 AM   #1
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Dear Treyarch,

It has come to the Call of Duty playing community that your latest game: Call of Duty: Black Ops has several flaws that make this game more broken and just as game-breaking than Modern Warfare 2. Examples of said flaws include:
  1. Spawn - The spawn system in this game is far inferior to your last game, Call of Duty: World at War. Upon several instances a player will be killed, spawn near his/her area of death, and proceed to kill his/her killer, thus repeating the process.
  2. Sniping - Though quickscoping in Modern Warfare 2 was a peeve to those who were killed by it, it took skill to successfully quickscope. Because you gimped sniping so bad , you have killed a whole community of people who like to do trick shots and play the game for fun. Which, all in all, is the reason to play a game.
  3. Hit Registry - Upon several occurrences a player will fire their weapon at the enemy player and not see the "X" in which shows that the bullet hit, despite that the range of fire will be close.
  4. Host/Party Connection - While trying for 10 minutes to join the same party, I repeatedly received error messages saying that I was not able to connect with a friend. Furthermore, when a game is in play, several times, a host migration will be needed several times in the same match.

We, the players of Call of Duty: Black Ops believe it is in your best interest to fix what is in the above list as well as other players wishes to improve the game.

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Dear Treyarch,

Black ops sucks ass. It's more broken than MW2. Sniping is dead, hit registry is balls, spawns suck, consistent hosts are even worse. Fix it. Now.

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Ok first off posting this here will not get this read by treyarch.

Next I'm going to tell you why this "letter" is wrong.

Spawning - Only once or twice have I noticed that I have been shot from where I was actually spawning(no moving). Other than that it is just the incompetency of the player that keeps running back to the person killing them. If the person is "spawn trapping" you go a different way. Simple as that

Sniping - You must be one of those quickscoping fags. There is no skill involved in letting auto aim do all the work. Next trick shots are 100% luck so they can still be done in this game. Too bad if we killed a community full of egotistical 12 year olds, it makes the game better. And learn to snipe like a real sniper. You don't see real life snipers running around and doing 360 no scopes to the enemy. They sit in a part of the battlefield that has a good vantage point and the wait for the enemy to come to them.

Hit Detection - When players from around the globe play together and are connected to one person, there will always be this problem, no matter who makes it or what type of game it is. I see people in forza who lag around when they race, pain in the ass but you deal with it. If you don't to deal with the lag and the miss hit markers that are a result of it play split screen.

Host/Party - This has to do with your internet. They have been making hosts and party connectivity better. And this deals with what I said in hit detection too. Don't want to worry about people with bad/better internet go play split screen. And also the multi host migrations are probably because people lag switch and attempt to make themselves the host so they can get the "host advantage"

We, the players of Call of Duty: Black Ops believe that what TreyArch did when making Black Ops, was in the best interest of the community. Now us who have skill are able to actually prevail in the game and the people who were unskillful loose. Thank you Treyarch for making such an awesome game, now only if you could actually make it so the nit picky 12 year olds can't play you would be gods.

I offer this out to anyone who complains about the game. I will personally give you 1 million dollars to make a game that is better than this one.

Signed,

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Ok first off posting this here will not get this read by treyarch.

Next I'm going to tell you why this "letter" is wrong.

Spawning - Only once or twice have I noticed that I have been shot from where I was actually spawning(no moving). Other than that it is just the incompetency of the player that keeps running back to the person killing them. If the person is "spawn trapping" you go a different way. Simple as that

Sniping - You must be one of those quickscoping fags. There is no skill involved in letting auto aim do all the work. Next trick shots are 100% luck so they can still be done in this game. Too bad if we killed a community full of egotistical 12 year olds, it makes the game better. And learn to snipe like a real sniper. You don't see real life snipers running around and doing 360 no scopes to the enemy. They sit in a part of the battlefield that has a good vantage point and the wait for the enemy to come to them.

Hit Detection - When players from around the globe play together and are connected to one person, there will always be this problem, no matter who makes it or what type of game it is. I see people in forza who lag around when they race, pain in the ass but you deal with it. If you don't to deal with the lag and the miss hit markers that are a result of it play split screen.

Host/Party - This has to do with your internet. They have been making hosts and party connectivity better. And this deals with what I said in hit detection too. Don't want to worry about people with bad/better internet go play split screen. And also the multi host migrations are probably because people lag switch and attempt to make themselves the host so they can get the "host advantage"

We, the players of Call of Duty: Black Ops believe that what TreyArch did when making Black Ops, was in the best interest of the community. Now us who have skill are able to actually prevail in the game and the people who were unskillful loose. Thank you Treyarch for making such an awesome game, now only if you could actually make it so the nit picky 12 year olds can't play you would be gods.

I offer this out to anyone who complains about the game. I will personally give you 1 million dollars to make a game that is better than this one.

Signed,

The smart and skilled players of the Call of Duty Community
First off, I don't plan for treyarch to see this. What I was trying to get at was a correlation of people who are pissed off at flaws in the game.

1- YouTube - Addressing Black Ops Spawn System
2- Every now and then would QS. I never do it for the trickshots, I do it for defense. QSing is faster than pulling out your sidearm. In Black Ops, they ruined sniping in general.
3- Can't disagree to that, but they can make it better.
4- I have a strong connection. As do many of my friends. On average, with or without a party, host migration will occur.

I'm not saying that I hate Black Ops. I'm just saying that so many things are flawed. If games are made for fun, isn't it time to start making it better?
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I agree 100% Hans. Theres just too much bitching over he stupidest of details sometimes.

- That guy sounds like an idiot in the video. Shit happens in games. Get over it.
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really i dont think it is the hit registry. quite literaly i think it has a lot to do with lag problems. but really, with averaging about a million players online it is bound to be laggy. sniping however, i do have to agree quick scoping is gimped so bad hard scoping now requires skill. which is nice because when everyone can snipe its annoying. however i do completely agree with number 4. the host thingie does need some serious tweeking. but they are working on it. Call of Duty: Black Ops
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First off, I don't plan for treyarch to see this. What I was trying to get at was a correlation of people who are pissed off at flaws in the game.

1- YouTube - Addressing Black Ops Spawn System
2- Every now and then would QS. I never do it for the trickshots, I do it for defense. QSing is faster than pulling out your sidearm. In Black Ops, they ruined sniping in general.
3- Can't disagree to that, but they can make it better.
4- I have a strong connection. As do many of my friends. On average, with or without a party, host migration will occur.

I'm not saying that I hate Black Ops. I'm just saying that so many things are flawed. If games are made for fun, isn't it time to start making it better?
I will again say 1 million dollars if you make a better game.

1) Most of the time there are more than 1 ways out of a spawn, and this goes back to what I said earlier. If you have any smarts you will take the other way if someone is hunkered down watching one exit, or stay in the spawn and wait for them to come to you.
2) Black Ops did not ruin sniping. I today decided to start sniping in objective based games and I did amazing. Treyarch simply made sniping realistic, which is fantastic because the 12 year olds of the "sniping community" who yelled hardscope everytime a scope zoomed in, no longer can do that, making the game me bearable for the entire community.
4) Sure you may have strong conection but that does not mean that everyone in the lobby with you does. And host migrations can also be a result of someone on the hosts network signing on to another console or downloading stuff from the internet causing the host to lag and the game to pick a new host that has less lag.
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I for one love the sniping. I had a great game sniping on Launch in Domination. Spawn I never complained except Nuketown because of the size. What needs tweaked is the map selection. Nuketown is probably the most over played map. I hate leaving a lobby because majority votes go to Nuketown over and over.
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Hans. I think you should stop trying to justify it. I am experiencing the same problems with finding a lobby, it took me an hour straight yesterday for me and 4 of my friends to find a game. The spawns are garbage, 1 out of 5 times i get spawned directly behind or in front of an enemy, not on nuketown. I dont think they have multiple spawns, or do not occur often because its normally one side or the other, not multiple spots around the map. I would like to see you guys try to get a party of 6 and join a game, takes at least 10 minutes if not more! this was the same case in world at war
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I never had these problems in WaW, but okay sure it sometimes takes 10 minutes but sometimes its instant. and who cares if it takes 10 min? I don't need to play so desperately that I can't wait 10 minutes.

And i am experiencing the spawn problems too, some of us just don't handle them so immature. I don't need to go bitch on a forum about it. I make the adjustments to my style of gameplay and i deal with it. I have never been spawned directly in front or behind people except on nuketown. When I spawn near someone i still have to virtually run a full sprint to get to the person, and that to me is definately not being spawn killed. What people call spawn killing is so skewed its crazy. Spawn Killing is when you dont have a chance to defend yourself from someone spawning or someone shooting at you as you spawn, once you take a step you have a chance to defend yourself so its not spawn killing.
And there is spawn killing in every shooting game. Its a part of the game, so get used to it.

And I am defending treyarch because I know that i can not make a game like Black Ops and neither can you guys. I know that fact and so i'm not going to bitch and complain about someone elses amazing work.
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