Black Ops 2: New Knife System Discussion

[iFlandies]

i'm really hoping for the 2 knife to kill system *fingers crossed*

[hippoponese]

I'm not sure about how halo plays but bf3 and CoD are 2 completely different games. the only thing they have in common is that there first person shooters. so implementing a system from a game that is slower paced then CoD would only render it useless as it would be alot slower/more casually used then the rest of the stuff ( in this case weapons ) in the game. and that philosophy works for any type of game you wouldnt use a dragon from skyrim in a 2d world such as super mario as a boss vice/versa now would you?

Although CoD and Bf3 may not be as drastically different as Skyrim to Super Mario I feel that if anything should be done IMO the secondary knife is the best choice, gets rid of panic knifing altogether ( or what is perceived as panic knifing ) and doesn't render the knife less usefull then the riot shield. ( Which with cover still isn't that great in CoD )

[hippoponese]

I just came from watching a halo gameplay on youtube it makes sense for the 2 hit melee because it takes more damage to kill the enemy and the crazy jumping. totally different game then CoD anyhow dont think it would work in BOII imo

[Moofda]

I'm cool with a perk making it a one hit kill, as you probably won't see it that often. I'd love for it to take two swipes by default, I get so sad when "panic shooting" when taken by surprise only for billy the angry knifer to lunge through my bullets and super stab me.

[Dangerous_Dave]

Don't really understand the people who want it to take two hits to kill with the knife. Essentially you hate the knife so much that you want to make it useless. With the lunge recovery time, running around with a two-hit knife would be about as useful as running around with a chocolate bar. I also don't understand why people hate panic knifing but are OK with panic spraying (which goes on A LOT in this game).

Somebody said this is a first person shooter so knifing should be out, but that's not true - first person shooters went out with Quake. This is a war game and therefore you should be able to do all the stuff a normal soldier can. Are you going to get rid of kill streaks that don't involve first person shooting too?

I personally find the alterations to the knife to be already too severe in this game, and much preferred the BO1 system. I remember seeing videos of gun games where people would get really angry about knifers and thinking "well duh - if you had more awareness and were quicker with your own knife then you'd have no problem". Knife is already crippled in BO2, and the game is much the worse for it.

I understand that people don't like the whole supernatural 180 panic knifing, but that's because the game allows ridiculous levels of turning sensitivity, which is not at all like what a real person could do. If they wanted it to be more realistic, they would limit the maximum rate at which a player could turn and aim to something more closely approaching reality, and then there would be none of this 180 knifing or spraying.

[datank45]

nicely said dangerous_dave

[ShadySLAYER]

1. I think it should be a two hit kill knife unless you hit them in the back and do an assassination (like in BF3).
2. The knife as a secondary could work but what about the people who use the knife the way it's supposed to be used? When I have a weapon equipped I almost never use my knife and when I do it's under one of the two circumstances: 1. I'm behind enemy lines and I need to kill someone, but I don't have a suppressed weapon. or 2. I am in the middle of reloading and I have no other option but to knife.
3. Kinda goes with #2. It could work but takes away the purpose of having the knife at your disposal.

All these ideas are interesting and seem to have taking alot of thought but it still doesn't fix the actual knifing system. Like I've said before, I'm more than glad that they made it to minimize panic knifing but it's fucking stupid that I can be a foot in front of someone and looking directly at them and still miss a knife.

[Brunoob]

All the three would be shit. I mean, what would be the point of killing with two knife hits? You could just pray and spray, it would be faster. If it was an equipment, then we wouldn't be able to use a good knife class because knife + tomahawk would be disabled, and having it as a secondary is just no good. It's perfect as it is, maybe the hit detection could be better but it's fine as it is

[HOUDINI]

Is this for real or what? WHY not make an online sign petition (formal) for treyarch to modify the knife system NOW?

I am tired of shooting an entire magazine from a mp7 to a guy that comes running from a distance with the knife, only to be killed by him!!!

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[bigmoon81]

Being knifed when unloading into a dude (oo-er missus) is frustrating. But the knifing in this game is shocking anyway. I find that it is harder to knife in BO2 than any other COD game I have played. I have my backstabber calling card so I don't mind as much. Its just annoying when a panic knife stops you one kill away from your top scorestreak. I do enjoy however, enjoy shooting them guys that are running around thinking they are Rambo with no guns equipped. I enjoy it even more when they are about a meter away from knifing me and then they drop, hearing that dude rage makes me get a little semi-on...